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Re: Neil Young Set

Post  medwaymaria on Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:04 pm

For me it was the emotion that Neil Young put into his set. Particularly the songs about ageing - so poignant to hear the songs he wrote as a young man now he is older. It's not often I'm so moved by a gig.

This could start another forum war, but up til now the best live act I've seen was Led Zepp at Knebworth '79. Neil Young now has that place in my heart. Life changing, when you've held onto something for that long.

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hank to hendrix

Post  wizard2953 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:00 pm

Just about somes up neil

self confessed

influenced by some of the greatest country artists you only have to watch he harvest film to realise that
and influenced by the greatest rock guitarist that ever lived

mix all that up and you have the still living neil young a legend in his own right

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Missing songs

Post  clanger on Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:43 pm

The one song missing from Neil's set was Pocahuntas as if he had checked the history books he would have found that she is buried in Gravesend & there is a statue to her in a park.

It was a brilliant evening even without this song.

What a year for music in Kent Madonna plays Maidstone & Neil plays Beltring!!

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Re: Neil Young Set

Post  Melansi on Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:41 pm

[quote="yivs"]
Kim Yelach wrote:Surely there are people out there who thought it the most outrageous self indulgence that Neil Young took approx half an hour to complete his penultimate offering, "No Hidden Path"?

My personal opinion is different, being a devoted Neil fan (after having listened to many bands/musicians, I've finally found the man who I can say is by far the most worthy of being my personal musical idol, heck, it's the other way round really, I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy...). I love No Hidden Path (didn't like it so much on the album, but experiencing all 20 mins + of it each time at the Apollo has totally opened up my mind to this brilliant song that allows Neil to get possessed and jam on).

One of the reasons why Neil's fans love his long 'messy' jamming sessions is for just that reason, they're long, and they're 'messy'. These epic songs take us on a journey, through tempo changes, speeding up and down, dynamic changes, getting louder and softer, mellow sections, raging sections, feedback sections, and throughout all the sections, the band members are always in touch with each other and with Neil, following him, supporting him as he leads them through the changes. A very good lesson on musicianship, improvisation, and the Dionyscean (how do you spell it) style of music. It's not meant to be perfect, it's gorgeous because of its imperfection and most importantly, it all comes from the heart.

For me, the magical moment in No Hidden Path is when after all the tension during the long sections of dischordant noise and mess during the soloing, then comes the resolving chorus, that lovely chord change to the major key, like the 'Path has been lit', and he sings 'And with you, I feel no Hidden Path'. For this amount of tension and resolve, it's best appreciated in the form of a long song.

The man himself puts it best when he says, quote:

Neil Said...

On the long songs from RAGGED GLORY...

I purposely wanted to play long instrumentals because I don't hear any jamming
on any other records. There's nothing spontaneous going on on records these
days, except in blues and funkier music. Rock and roll used to have all that.
People aren't reaching out in the instrumental passages and spontaneously
letting them last as long as they can. I love to do that, but I can only really
do it with one band. I tried it a little on FREEDOM . But that style of music
is better for me with Crazy Horse." 1990


I hope that some of you younger fans or those on the verge of being newly converted can appreciate this point, as it opens up a whole new dimension of rock music appreciation


I fully concur with all of the above.
The spontaneity. The improvistation. The fact that the guitar is an extension of the man's emotions. Coupled with the exact replica, renditions of the hits, to me, complete the musical picture.

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Re: Neil Young Set

Post  eddy bamyasi on Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:58 pm

Some interesting comments here. As a long time fan of Neil Young and having seen him a few times before (where he played Hurricane, Powderfinger, Cortez etc) I was delighted with the set list (but I appreciate he is not going to be able to please everyone - how can he pick 16 songs from a career of 40 years?). I think it was a finely balanced mix of old, new, famous, and less well known. To be honest many performers get away with playing almost nothing from their back catalogue - can you imagine Van Morrison playing 3 or 4 songs from Astral Weeks?

To hear "Everybody Knows....", "I've been waiting for you" and "Words" was a real treat. I loved the extended "No Hidden Path" and it could have gone on for another 1/2 hour if you ask me. I haven't bought Chrome Dreams yet so hadn't heard this song before. I also thought the heavy metal "Day in the Life" was awesome - it has certainly provided a memorable talking point (moreso than anything else he could have played I'd say). But to a large extent it didn't really matter what he played. The long guitar jams (as he admits himself) are similar so you could perm any 2 or 3 from 20.

And then the acoustic section of mostly Harvest stuff was the ultimate crowd pleaser.

As for technical ability I agree with some previous posters. He might not be the best but that doesn't matter. I'd listen to Young before Clapton anyday. It's the passion and energy and that unique sound that is instantly recognisable and just the same as on the CDs. His hands appear to barely move but he produces this awesome sound. Is there anyone else who can match that power? Did anyone go to the Led Zep reunion gig - how did it compare?

Ok, how about a bit of fun. You are only allowed 16 songs - what would be your ultimate Neil Young set list.........?

If I was him this is what I'd play for my next gig.........Old Man, Ambulance Blues, New Mama, Thrasher, Love in Mind, Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, I've Been Waiting for You, Double E, Powder Finger, I'm the Ocean, Barstool Blues, Country Home, Union Man, Hey Hey My My, No Hidden Path, Piece of Crap.........oh and Day in the Life as encore. that's 17 but some of them are short except No Hidden Path which I'd play for 35 minutes.

Keep on rockin in the free world, regards Eddy

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